Lubricating Oils
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Written by Peter Ballard MIMechE.
Technical Adviser Cossack Owners Club
There is still much confusion and misinformation out there
over the best lubricating oils to use in our engines,
gearboxes and final drives. I have taken advice again from
oil companies and companies that supply the vintage
motorcycle owners and racers. I am concerned about getting
the best protection available, as opposed to the cheapest or
easiest. Here is my considered advice:
Final drives or
differentials.
Hypoid or EP 90. An alternative can be a Hypoid or EP 140 in
summer or if the unit is warn and you wish to quieten the
whine before eventual rebuild.
Multigrades - a 90/140-gear oil is suitable.
Gearbox:
Urals - summer
Hypoid or EP 90. This gives quieter gear changes than 80
grade but causes more drag. If you have really delicate feet
and manage quiet gear changes use Hypoid or EP Light 80. In
winter change to EP Light 80, if you use the bike for short
journeys in cold weather.
Dnieper boxes (4 speed and reverse type). Same grade as
above, but do not use EP grade. There is a risk that the
additives in EP (Extreme Pressure) lubricants will damage by
corrosion the brass bushes on the output gears and cause
premature failure.
Multigrade gear oils - a 75/90 will replace a 80 or possibly
90.
Multigrade engine oils (eg 20W/50) - will offer satisfactory
protection; but not as good as purpose designed gear oils.
Two strokes with multiplate clutches in the gearbox - Hypoid
Light 80. If you use a 90 grade then the clutch may drag or
slip a little when first used from cold, but the gear
changes will be quieter, probably good for hot weather use.
Engines:
Dnieper plain big end bearing engines (K650, MT9. MT10,
MT11, MT16, MT19 and similar).
Use a good quality Multigrade 20W/50 from a reputable oil
company all year round.
Urals and Dnieper MT12 with roller big ends. As per the
original BMW engines, use a Straight or Monograde 40 all
year. Possibly use 30 grade in winter if the bike is kept
outside and the engine never really gets warm in use,
otherwise keep to 40 grade.
Multigrades? Until recently it was not advised to use any
multigrades in these engines to get the best protection.
Multigrades:
Good - they do not thin at high
temperatures as much as mono grades and thus maintain
viscosity.
Good - they do not thicken at low
temperatures as much as mono grades and thus help starting
by reducing the load on starter motors or leg.
Bad - the additives (long change
polymers) to achieve viscosity control over wide temperature
range tend to get destroyed in an air-cooled engine with
local hot spots and reduce their protection quicker than in
a water-cooled car engine.
Bad - they contain additives to
minimise stiction and also shear very easily which is ideal
for the shell bearing car engines they were designed for.
The rotational speed of a big end on its crank pin is not
constant during a single constant speed crankshaft
revolution (think about that over a pint!). Thus the big end
rollers need to speed up and slow down twice each
revolution. To do this they need to gain traction from the
crank pin and the inside of the conrod. The use of oil that
is designed m help things slide (like a modern multigrade)
is unhelpful, since the
rollers will tend to slide and can cause the oil film
to fail locally at big end roller contact resulting in
increased wear. The use of a lubricant that allows the
rollers to roll instead of sliding, such as a monograde oil
with no shear viscosity reduction additives will increase
the life of the big ends.
Oil Change
Frequency.
Keep to the manufacturers' recommendations, particularly
during running in and the warranty period read the manual.
Synthetic oils typically last up to twice the mileage as
mineral based oils before needing changing.
If you use your bike for short journeys and it often gets
very hot in traffic, then change the oil more frequently.
Some General
Comments:
The most expensive lubricating oil is not necessarily the
best for your machine, grade and type is far more important.
Engine oils are designed to work in engines and gear oils
are designed to work in gearboxes, so do not use engine oils
in gearboxes since gear oils are better.
Lubricating oils contain a vast range of additives to
control corrosion, to dissolve deposits, to reduce stiction,
to change viscosity in a predictable manner with changes in
temperature, to cope with local high temperatures without
degrading and much more, they are not just refined crude
oil.
The blackness in the oil after use is partly due to
combustion products getting past the piston rings, but also
due to degrading and burning of the lubricating oil and its
additives resulting in what is called ash.
Detergent content. All multigrades contain significant
detergent. Monogrades can be obtained with or without
detergent content. The detergent is there to keep the engine
clean and then keep the deposits in the oil until the oil is
changed. If the engine has not been run on detergent oils
before and has not been stripped and cleaned recently, then
there is a risk that the detergent content of a lubricant
containing detergent will loosen the old deposits and
circulate them around the engine; which is not good with an
engine with no or poor filter fitted.
Typically the base oil for a lubricant is mineral oil (from
the ground) or vegetable oil (typically caster or even olive
oil). Synthetic lubricating oils are synthesised from
various chemicals to meet high performance requirements,
they last longer than mineral oils before degrading and tend
to reduce engine oil consumption. It is probably a waste of
money to use a synthetic oil and change it at the same
periods as a mineral based oil, you are not getting the
extended life benefit you paid for. The manufacturers of our
bikes do not quote oil change periods for synthetic engine
oil, but they tend to last up to twice as long before
needing to be changed.
The higher the number on the SAE scale the more viscous
(thicker) is the oil.
Engine oil grades are measured on a different scale from
gearbox oils. Thus a certain grade engine oil is more
viscous than a similar grade gear oil at the same
temperature. This is to account for engine oils have a
higher normal operating temperature than gear oils.
Multigrade 20W/50. This means that the oil is behaving like
a 20 grade at -18°C (W denoting Winter) and like
a 50 grade at 100°C. Under the typical range of
engine operating conditions, a mono grade 40 is generally
thicker than a 20W/50.
Many Japanese engines use roller bearing big ends and yet
recommend multigrades! The multigrades will aid electric
starting at low temperatures on these engines. The engines
were designed with multigrades in mind and have a very long
design life anyway where big end failure will not be
expected before wear of other components.
Last but not least.
Dispose of waste oil at a recognised recycling centre or
disposal centre. Telephone your local council for the
location of such a site.
Engine Oil recommendations direct from the Lubricant
Manufacturers Applicable to the Ural and similar engines
with roller bearing `big-ends'. (Including Ural M63, M66,
M67,IMZ series, M72, K750, MT12 )
Notes from PJB:
Miller Oils offer no explanation as to why they think their
multigrade is more suitable than their monograde SAE 40,
even with a direct request for an explanation.
If on a trip away from home, you run low on engine oil, and
you cannot get any monograde oil; then good quality 20W/50
engine oil can be used to top up.
Multigrade oils in these engines will not give as good wear
protection to the roller big ends as the above recommended
oils, but they will protect everything else well. Extra wear
of big ends due to occasional use of multigrades under
moderate use will be undetectable,
Dnieper overhead valve engines (K650, MT9, MT 10, MT10-36,
MTI1 and MT16) which have shell bearing big-ends should use
a multigrade 20W/50 engine oil from a reputable manufacturer
for best protection all year round.
OILS - PART TWO
Author - PETER J BALLARD
I the last magazine I wrote an article around the engine oil
recommendations from various lubricating oil manufacturers
mainly aimed at Ural owners due to the special requirements
of roller bearing big-ends. It was noted that some of the
major manufacturers would not offer the COC any
recommendations, for whatever reason.
I am pleased to say that David Angel of 'F2 Motorcycles', a
leading Ural dealer and long time Ural owner, has had more
success than me and has the following comments and
recommendations from other major lubricating oil companies.
I have no problems with these recommendations at all,
except:
It does concern me that the lubricating oil companies Rock
Oil and Mobil have given the COC directly certain
recommendations and 'F2 Motorcycles' different
recommendations. I do not believe either recommendation is
necessarily wrong, but it is not very professional for these
major companies to issue apparently conflicting -I' Morris
Oils still recommend a conventional mineral oil based 20W/50
that apparently conflicts with all other recommendations so
far.
With respect to the choice between one of the specifically
recommended advanced fully synthetic oils or a medium to
high detergent mineral or vegetable based mono grade then I
offer the following advice:
If you intend to use your Ural in extreme conditions
including frequent cold starts, short journeys, frequent
stop-start city driving especially in hot weather or in very
cold environments then fully synthetic multigrade engine oil
is likely to give the very best protection.
If you intend to use your Ural for less arduous service such
as Sunday runs out, long runs to rallies, no short trips
i.e. maybe the use typical for the days when 'Classic'
motorcycles were 'modern' then a medium or high detergent
monograde will give good protection.
I am pleased to forward David Angel's comments and the
advice he has obtained from lubricating oil companies.
But please note the following:
If you have bought a new or second-hand motorcycle from a
dealer and have a warranty on that machine, then you must
use the oil and change intervals that the dealer recommends.
If not your warranty may be invalidated.
All advice forwarded by myself and David Angle is consistent
in that it is considered not advisable to use in a Ural a
conventional mineral oil based 20W/50 multigrade whether
bought from a super market or from a major oil company. Both
the recommended straight oils and the recommended fully
synthetics will be better
F2 MOTORCYCLES - OILY NOTES
Author -
David Angel
I have read the recent article about mono grade oils in the
club publication 'Horizontal News' and would like to make
the following comments. As anyone who has visited us, or
bought a bike from us will know, I use and strongly
recommend the use of Fully Synthetic Oils. Whilst it is true
that mono grades are shear stable I feel that they simply do
not have a wide enough temperature range, to fully protect
your engine under typical all year round riding conditions.
So surely if a shear stable oil could be found that gave the
same or better protection over a wider temperature range
this would be better.
I have contacted various oil companies and asked them to
recommend an oil based on our engine but without telling
them the make. I think if you tell them the make they just
look it up in an out of date list probably compiled before
fully synthetics were widely available. I asked them to
recommend an oil that would be shear stable in a roller
bearing engine but could be used over a wide temperature
range. I also said if there really is no oil with shear
stability to match mono grades they should tell me so I
could correct my current recommendations. I told them the
engine size, type, bearing type, pump type, max power, max
revs. A summery of their replies follows:
ROCK OIL
With roller bearing cranks, you need an oil made with large
molecule bases. One needs to be careful not to go too thick
as it then prevents rapid circulation at cold start - which
is when 70% of engine wear takes place.
Viscosity index improves; the polymers that make a base
material into a multigrade vary enormously in their shear
stability. We at Rock use an Isoprene Diene type, the most
shear stable. Synthetics offer a demonstrable benefit in all
areas of lubrication compared with mineral oils. They have a
higher natural VI and are more shear stable.
I would definitely recommend Rock Oil Synthesis 4 Racing. A
15w50 fully synthetic oil with API SL, ACEA A3, and JASO Ma
specifications. We also have an interesting 20w6O racing oil
called TRM which I would recommend for any older engines. We
use TRM for endurance racing in roller bearing cranked
bikes, with phenomenal results.
Drain intervals are always tricky. As an oil Company, we are
always advised to follow the manufacturers recommendation.
There are many factors that influence drain intervals. Older
type engines tend to produce more or dirtier by-products
from the combustion process. However, for a good synthetic
oil, your 2500 km seems too short. I would feel confident at
double that.
BP
Based on the info provided we would suggest our Formula RS
10w60. This is a fully synthetic oil using highly shear
stable VI improvers. It is only the VII's that are prone to
shearing permanently. (Castrol) Formula RS is our flagship
brand and uses VI.
MORRIS OILS
20W/50 grades tend to be formulated with mineral oils that
provide a good oil film, ideal for roller bearings. They
exhibit minimal shear thinning. 20W grades will also provide
good cold starting down to -15 degrees C, so only really
cold weather may be a problem.
In conclusion I would recommend the following product from
our range: Morris V-Twin 20W/50. Do not be put off by the
name; this oil is suitable for motorcycle engines that are
not a V-Twin configuration. 20W/50 engine oils, like V-Twin
20W/50, tend to be mineral oil based. Mineral
oils, having thicker oil films, are much better at
lubricating roller bearing cranks. There would be no
advantage to using a fully synthetic product in this
application.
MOBIL
Following comments from Mobil's Technical Manager, our
recommendation for the bikes you are stocking are as
follows: Engine - Mobil 1 Racing 4T 15w50 fully Synthetic)
F2 COMMENTS
As you can see with the exception of Morris Oils, all who
bothered to answer have recommended the use of Fully
Synthetic oils. I am still waiting for answers
from another 2 or
3 companies and if they ever bother I will pass this
information on.
I will continue to use and recommend the use of good quality
fully synthetic oils using the highly shear stable VI
improvers. I will be working with Castrol this year to give
advice on oil change mileage using Castrol Formula RS. I
will put it in my bike and then take small samples to send
to their laboratory at 1000 KM intervals, they will then
test it for sheared molecules and let me have the results. |
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